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COG CONFUSION? 7/8/9 speeds - By Gavin Donahue

Bike Friday® has used a variety of industry cassette standards. First there was 7speed. This standard was expanded to 8 speeds by using a wider cassette drive body and adding the 8th cog. The chain width and shifter indexing spacing stayed the same, but one more shift point was added to the shifters. The component makers then developed narrower cogs and chains so that 9 cogs could fit on the 8-speed drive body. This is termed 8/9 speed spacing. The narrower 9 speed chain works well on both, but the 7/8 speed chain will not work on the 9 speed cogs, as it is too wide. Additionally, the 9 speed cassette spacing requires the narrower 9 speed shifter indexing spacing. A persistent point of confusion stems from our practice of using the popular 9 speed components on the Sachs/SRAM 3x7 hub. This hub has a 7speed drive body. We have produced many bikes with standard 7 speed components on the 3x7 hub. The market trend to 9 speed components has, however, created a better selection of high quality 9 speed shifters. By removing one of the cogs from a 9-speed cassette, an 8-speed cassette is created with 9speed spacing that allows the use of the desirable 9 speed components. This modified cassette is equivalent to the width of the older standard 7 speed cassettes, and therefore, fits the drive body of the 3x7 hub. While having 8 cogs, this is not traditional 7/8 spacing and will not index correctly unless 9 speed shifters are used. This creates an extra 'ghost shift' at the 9th shift point that is absorbed by the limit stop in the derailleur. This practice has changed with the availability of the new SRAM 3x9 hubs. These hubs have the wider 8/9 speed drive body. Matching 8 or 9 speed shifters are needed, depending on which spacing standard is used. It should be possible to install a 7-speed cassette by using a spacer to replace the missing 8th cog. This requires the 7/8 indexing standard. The older 3x7 hubs are no longer available.

Additional confusion stems from the shifter and derailleur and cog compatibility issues between different manufacturers: Campagnolo has a different cog spline pattern and different cog spacing than Shimano and SRAM, which are the same. This prevents Campy cogs from installing on the more common Shimano/ SRAM pattern drive bodies. There are after-market Campy cog spacers available, that will space Shimano cogs to the Campy indexing standard. In this case, Campy shifters and derailleurs must be used. SRAM makes a series of components that are Shimano compatible. These have matched cable pull geometry to the Shimano standards and allow mixing and matching of shifters and derailleurs. SRAM also makes shifters and derailleurs to their own standard, which will not index properly if intermixed with the Shimano standard components.

I hope this clarifies some of the issues with the ever-changing world of bicycle chain drives. For the technically minded, the following is a more detailed explanation that expands on the preceding general information:

7 & 8-speed spacing are close but not the same. 7 speed spacing is 5mm, 8 is 4.8mm. (Shim 9 is 4.34 and Campy 10 is 4.12. But Campy 8 is 5.0mm.) With the full shift range, some combinations will shift either 7 or 8 speed spacing for 7 cogs, where the derailleur is accommodating a potential difference of 1.2mm over the 7-speed cassette width. When set up correctly, about half of the distance (0.6mm) is accommodated at each end; and since this results in an over shift, it is limited at each end by the derailleur limit screws.

Gavin Donahue.
Bike Friday® Customer Service Manager,
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